tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post113462619376570646..comments2023-11-02T19:19:15.129+05:30Comments on Death Ends Fun: High wireDilip D'Souzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134786326170395482005-12-17T07:55:00.000+05:302005-12-17T07:55:00.000+05:30(small voice)But I LIKE Bose.They sound real GOOD....(small voice)<BR/>But I LIKE Bose.<BR/>They sound real GOOD.<BR/>Not high-end ...?<BR/><BR/>(Well, F*** high-end! ... goes back to <I>Smoke on the water</I> at high volume)<BR/><BR/>J.A.P.J. Alfred Prufrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16446127543417759542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134644077114735532005-12-15T16:24:00.000+05:302005-12-15T16:24:00.000+05:30Rahul, yes, the man was trying to make fun of the ...Rahul, yes, the man was trying to make fun of the Bose direct/reflecting system, and if I recall correctly he used the word "muddy". He was also sneering at us actually presuming to think that Bose was "high-end" -- not high-end enough, obviously.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for that link! But I don't visit high-end audio stores often -- the last time (of 2) was actually 20 years ago! Nevertheless, I might actually make such a visit just for the pleasure of plonking down this printout and reading it ostentatiously.Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134643304244304912005-12-15T16:11:00.000+05:302005-12-15T16:11:00.000+05:30Here's a good rebuttal of expensive-cabling, biwir...Here's a good rebuttal of expensive-cabling, biwiring, CD-treatment and sundry other audiophile myths: <A HREF="http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf" REL="nofollow">http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf</A> (PDF file). Since you seem to visit high-end audio shops often, take a printout along next time...Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134641535673915972005-12-15T15:42:00.000+05:302005-12-15T15:42:00.000+05:30Dilip, about your salesman who immediately wrinkle...Dilip, about your salesman who <I>immediately wrinkled his nose, put his hands over his face, turned to the wall and began speaking to us like that.</I><BR/><BR/>He was demonstrating the "direct/reflecting" system. The high-end Bose systems (series 901 for example) have two speakers pointing forward and a whole bunch pointing backwards facing the wall. Their theory is that this better simulates a concert environment where sound reflects off walls. Many people think it just makes the sound "muddy" apparently. I haven't heard those systems; the Bose systems I've heard didn't sound bad exactly, until you looked at the price. If you want to spend Rs 25000 you can do much better...Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134639166085204222005-12-15T15:02:00.000+05:302005-12-15T15:02:00.000+05:30Rahul, your mention of Bose reminds me of the othe...Rahul, your mention of Bose reminds me of the other time I went to an audio store, and we inquired about Bose speakers. The salescrook immediately wrinkled his nose, put his hands over his face, turned to the wall and began speaking to us like that. Meaning, that's how Bose speakers sound (he said). At least he was funny.<BR/><BR/>Atul, you say: <I>i'd rather just sing to myself, aloud</I>!<BR/><BR/>For that, we audiophiles recommend cables, available at Rs 4000/foot, which you can use to tie down the other occupants of your car so they won't run screaming for the hills.Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134635459977793182005-12-15T14:00:00.000+05:302005-12-15T14:00:00.000+05:30umm..i'd rather just sing to myself, aloud!umm..i'd rather just sing to myself, aloud!Atul Sabnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15137583976131277844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134628578949946742005-12-15T12:06:00.000+05:302005-12-15T12:06:00.000+05:30BTW, audiophiles are pretty funny. (I speak as th...BTW, audiophiles are pretty funny. (I speak as the owner of a low-end audiophile system. It does sound better than Bose, but I tried to hold out against the snake oil.) Rs 1000/m wire is hardly the start... For a long time they held out against CDs because 16 bit samples don't offer enough dynamic range (never mind it's way more than what LPs offer.) Of course, many early CDs were poorly mastered so vinyl did sound better. Then they said painting one side of the CD green, using gold instead of aluminium for the CD medium, etc, cause fewer errors in reading (of course CD players do error correction but they claim they can hear that too). So an entire market sprung up in gold audiophile CDs, green pens, and so on. Also, high-end CD players have ultra-stable platters and transport mechanisms to reduce jitter, when all you need to reduce it is a stable clock. They encourage double-wiring the speakers (connecting the woofers and tweeters separately to the amp, which has separate outlets), so that you will spend twice as much on that Rs 1000/m wire. But of course if you're using the same amp to drive both (even if the amp has separate outputs) it's the internal impedance of the amp which will matter. So they ask you to buy two separate amps for the woofers and tweeters. And so on... An audiophile and his money are soon parted.Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1134627093537599592005-12-15T11:41:00.000+05:302005-12-15T11:41:00.000+05:30"She plans her guest list based on the purpose of ..."She plans her guest list based on the purpose of the party. If it is a business [meal], the guests will generally be corporate, business associations."<BR/><BR/>Does that mean something like CII or NASSCOM? She must have a large house.Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.com