tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post116375299534382694..comments2023-11-02T19:19:15.129+05:30Comments on Death Ends Fun: Road lessonsDilip D'Souzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1164257876599280502006-11-23T10:27:00.000+05:302006-11-23T10:27:00.000+05:30Anonymous n!,The first comment was mine and, I adm...Anonymous n!,<BR/><BR/>The first comment was mine and, I admit I am not very comfortable with it on a re-read. I just reacted to the Corolla. <BR/><BR/>The other one was somebody else pretending to be me. If they wish to explain the 'higher standards' let them.<BR/><BR/>I've had a small discussion with DDS by mail to clear it up. I ve taken this blogger ID and wont be posting anonymously again.<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>JaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1164156851006205822006-11-22T06:24:00.000+05:302006-11-22T06:24:00.000+05:30Dilip: Did the people pack up and go or were they ...Dilip: <BR/><BR/>Did the people pack up and go or were they forced to go (kind of like "cleaning the streets"). If the latter, its sad. <BR/><BR/>I haven't been catching too much of the coverage but its good if the mainstream media doens't let this slip. Even after justice has been done. I think one of the issues is how easily we rationalize, then feel sorry for the driver and finally integrate them into mainstream society. The first step in this slippery slope is pointing out extenuating circumstances. The boy was truly nice, the labourers were sleeping on the pavement, we all drink and drive, it could happen with a flat tire etc etc etc. Yes, all this could happen but it doens't make the current action any more right. All it does is dilute the outrage that is required to push to get such crimes heard on court. <BR/><BR/>Jai, I am puzzled about why you would bring in people's professions or interests into a judgment of a moral action. The person doens't matter. There is no tallying up of one's moral worth such that I can do a few charitable actions in the morning and then its justifiable for me to mow down a few people in the afternoon. Similarly, I wouldn't hold DD to a higher moral standard than a drunken party-going type. If your reasoning is correct, none of us should do anything other than behave utterly badly so that all standards can be comfortably lowered. <BR/><BR/>n!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1164156759682388402006-11-22T06:22:00.000+05:302006-11-22T06:22:00.000+05:30Did the people pack up and go or were they forced ...Did the people pack up and go or were they forced to go (kind of like "cleaning the streets"). If the latter, its sad. <BR/><BR/>I haven't been catching too much of the coverage but its good if the mainstream media doens't let this slip. Even after justice has been done. I think one of the issues is how easily we rationalize, then feel sorry for the driver and finally integrate them into mainstream society. The first step in this slippery slope is pointing out extenuating circumstances. The boy was truly nice, the labourers were sleeping on the pavement, we all drink and drive, it could happen with a flat tire etc etc etc. Yes, all this could happen but it doens't make the current action any more right. All it does is dilute the outrage that is required to push to get such crimes heard on court. <BR/><BR/>Jai, I am puzzled about why you would bring in people's professions or interests into a judgment of a moral action. The person doens't matter. There is no tallying up of one's moral worth such that I can do a few charitable actions in the morning and then its justifiable for me to mow down peopl ein the afternoon. Similarly, I wouldn't hold DD to a higher moral standard than a drunken party-going type. If your reasoning is correct, none of us should do anything other than beahve utterly badly so that all standards can be comfortably lowered. <BR/><BR/>n!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1163787941158568972006-11-17T23:55:00.000+05:302006-11-17T23:55:00.000+05:30Neela, I don't know about any MADD/PADD chapters i...Neela, I don't know about any MADD/PADD chapters in India. Perhaps there should be.<BR/><BR/>I haven't had time to check, but I can't believe nobody else has blogged about this. <BR/><BR/>In any case, it has got pretty wide publicity in the Bom papers, coverage every day over the last few days. You should have seen those huts on Carter Road. They have since been removed altogether (I believe several of the families working there have gone back to AP).Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1163786720045546792006-11-17T23:35:00.000+05:302006-11-17T23:35:00.000+05:30I would like to change my mind regarding my first ...I would like to change my mind regarding my first comment.<BR/><BR/> - actually I think a sober DDS is more guilty than rich partygoers, other things equal. <BR/><BR/>Because DDS's writing is on a higher plane morally, and such a person is more guilty if he does such a crime than somebody who is doing only selfish enjoyment.<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>JaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-1163756606530402452006-11-17T15:13:00.000+05:302006-11-17T15:13:00.000+05:30Per the news report linked, - the labourers were a...Per the news report linked, <BR/><BR/>- the labourers were actually sleeping on the pavement not the road that makes it IMO more serious.<BR/><BR/>- the occupants of the car were drunk.<BR/><BR/>- they were probably speeding.<BR/><BR/>Also support the other points raised though about the workers deserving better, safer accomodation, sanitation.<BR/><BR/>I dont see the relevance of partygoer, Corolla etc.<BR/><BR/>If a sober DDS getting home in his jalopy, from a long session rescuing tsunami victims, driving at the speed limit, going round a bend runs over somebody who is sleeping on the road- not the pavement-<BR/><BR/>I feel he is as guilty as rich partygoers returning in Corollas who have blown up a lakh of rupees in mindless selfish enjoyment (other things equal- sobriety/ speeding etc).<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>JaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com