tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post5250357007909281722..comments2023-11-02T19:19:15.129+05:30Comments on Death Ends Fun: In a PrezDilip D'Souzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-40209857355012162182007-07-03T13:25:00.000+05:302007-07-03T13:25:00.000+05:30"Is there anyone in public life that I think would..."Is there anyone in public life that I think would make a good President? Yes. Are they running for President? No. Will they ever run for President? I don't know. I wish they would. They'd get my vote. If I could vote."<BR/><BR/>Who are you talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-90989109683898997332007-06-30T10:07:00.000+05:302007-06-30T10:07:00.000+05:30President NArayanan's track recordThe (preferably ...President NArayanan's track record<BR/>The (preferably demonstrated) ability to rise above partisan politics.<BR/><BR/>Notwithstanding that, an understanding of politics anyway. Not simply party politics, but an appreciation for the often political nature of the job, of how to use politics to further a cause.<BR/>-Can you elaborate? I can show several instances where he has not shown this ability.<BR/><BR/>A clean conscience, a sharp and independent mind<BR/>- Yes. Agree on this<BR/><BR/>A willingness, even an eagerness, to take a stand<BR/>- This is rather vague. First of all taking a stand should involve keeping national interest first. Narayanan definitely did not do this.<BR/><BR/>The ability to articulate matters, so as to explain them, especially unpopular ones, to people.<BR/>-No absolutely not. Please give examples. I shall give you mine later.<BR/><BR/>An absolute disinterest in the ceremonial trappings of office, whether the luxury of Rashtrapati Bhavan or the protocols of the position.<BR/>-Yes Agree totally on this.<BR/><BR/>(Aside: Qualities I couldn't care less about in a President: state of origin, last name and/or community of spouse, gender).<BR/><BR/>- Not sure whether you were keeping track of the news. But didnt the media only portray his caste and simply ignore his other credentials?<BR/><BR/>Please give the examples for each of the pointAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-38046125209187279162007-06-28T15:18:00.000+05:302007-06-28T15:18:00.000+05:30could you elaborate why Kalam or Shekhawat fail to...<I>could you elaborate why Kalam or Shekhawat fail to measure up to your standards</I>?<BR/><BR/>Not any more than what's already implicit in the list of qualities above.<BR/><BR/>Samir, shorn it may have been, but there are powers (stated and unstated) that Presidents can exercise and exploit. I wish more of them would do that. I look forward to a President who does that.Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-78094994423038167322007-06-28T13:16:00.000+05:302007-06-28T13:16:00.000+05:30Agree with qualification proposed for the Presiden...Agree with qualification proposed for the President. But could not agee on Narayanan as an example of it. He failed to rise above the partisan politics. Quite opportunist all through his career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-57097432218115824202007-06-28T10:08:00.000+05:302007-06-28T10:08:00.000+05:30try a tiny URL instead:http://preview.tinyurl.com/...try a tiny URL instead:<BR/>http://preview.tinyurl.com/34c4kvAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-4769233256625057712007-06-28T10:04:00.000+05:302007-06-28T10:04:00.000+05:30Wasn't Comrade Basu's name bandied about as a PM c...Wasn't Comrade Basu's name bandied about as a PM candidate once?<BR/>http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2007/06/26/cia-reveals-high-treason-by-indian-communists-will-mssrs-basu-karat-and-yechury-respond/<BR/><BR/>Along the same lines is AB Vajpayee (or Mishra) in the payroll of CIA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-87982543435810383042007-06-28T09:42:00.000+05:302007-06-28T09:42:00.000+05:30Very good list. I would up the first factor and do...Very good list. I would up the first factor and downplay the second. <BR/><BR/>- consistent demonstrated non-partisanship.<BR/><BR/>- willingness to understand and negotiate with the political compulsions of the partisans from as non-political a perspective as possible.<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>Jai<BR/>PS- This blog has almost always been thought provoking but now with the comment thread really starting to ZING, its becoming even better. Thanks to everybody on the comment thread.Jai_Choorakkothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11795629014937167288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-57307216182235337702007-06-28T08:14:00.000+05:302007-06-28T08:14:00.000+05:30Anonymous Coward,The debate over Kalam or Shekhawa...Anonymous Coward,<BR/><BR/>The debate over Kalam or Shekhawat is moot. They are not really in the running---because the electoral college that elects the president is firmly in the UPA's hands. They are imperfect men, and imperfect candidates. But at this time, their imperfection is not of national importance.<BR/><BR/>Samir<BR/><BR/>First of all, the President is <EM>not</EM> shorn of real responsibility or authority. Sending back legislation, approving the government's decisions to sack state governments, and commuting death sentences---just some of the decisions s/he needs to take. And in the event of a hung parliament, the president's judgement is important. <BR/><BR/>Second, even if it is only a symbolic role, shouldn't it be all the more important to ensure that the person symbolises the ideals unachievable otherwise in real politics? Symbolism, on the contrary, is very important in Indian cultural-social context.PaiNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06913824121540912648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-69948203881171380212007-06-28T00:34:00.000+05:302007-06-28T00:34:00.000+05:30Dilip, does it really matter? The role of the Pres...Dilip, does it really matter? The role of the President of India has been so shorn of any real responsibility or authority, that this whole drama is utterly meaningless, imho.Samirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898587139704390716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-58846556297455315762007-06-27T23:43:00.000+05:302007-06-27T23:43:00.000+05:30dilip could you elaborate why Kalam or Shekhawat f...dilip could you elaborate why Kalam or Shekhawat fail to measure up to your standards ?anonymous cowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02246355327428012961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-18995631259139201302007-06-27T23:17:00.000+05:302007-06-27T23:17:00.000+05:30Thank you Amit, got your comment right after posti...Thank you Amit, got your comment right after posting my update. My mess-up.Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-8939012868583817252007-06-27T22:20:00.000+05:302007-06-27T22:20:00.000+05:30"Did I see these qualities in any of the men who h..."Did I see these qualities in any of the men who have been President? Yes, in President Narayanan. Perhaps in Rajaji too, though I don't know enough about him."<BR/><BR/>Dilip, agree with the post, but one correction: Rajaji was never president. He was Nehru's choice to be India's first president -- much before they fell out -- but Patel supported Rajendra Prasad and prevailed.<BR/><BR/>A complete list of presidents here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_India#List_of_Presidents_of_India_.281950-Present.29Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com