tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post7916797667492002868..comments2023-11-02T19:19:15.129+05:30Comments on Death Ends Fun: House in a Slum? You Can't Afford ItDilip D'Souzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-27709682304450799722010-01-25T13:39:10.590+05:302010-01-25T13:39:10.590+05:30madison bloggers calibribu proves nehru amar coat ...madison bloggers calibribu proves nehru amar coat endorsed abook biologically designated <br />servimundos melifermulyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-22511297290570381782010-01-25T12:05:11.204+05:302010-01-25T12:05:11.204+05:30Good day, sun shines!
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Please be informed of one of them:<br />http://theblogmoney.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-71964504523446518342008-02-06T20:03:00.000+05:302008-02-06T20:03:00.000+05:30about two-thirds of Mumbai's population ~~~~are u ...about two-thirds of Mumbai's population ~~~~are u sure???i quite disagree~~~and there is also PPP model~~~that the govt can follow to reduce the slums~~~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-68333233091869854902008-02-02T14:58:00.000+05:302008-02-02T14:58:00.000+05:30Thanks again for your responses, people. Still on ...Thanks again for your responses, people. Still on slow dialup, so excuse the delay please.<BR/><BR/>The two-thirds figure. I must admit to overstating it somewhat, and am surprised I did. I have sent a note to the Post correcting that. <BR/><BR/>Here are some references:<BR/><BR/>* "About 60 per cent" -- <A HREF="http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2202/stories/20050128002004600.htm" REL="nofollow">this report</A>.<BR/><BR/>* "50-60 per cent" -- <A HREF="http://www.bombayfirst.org/McKinseyReport.pdf" REL="nofollow">McKinsey Vision Mumbai report</A> (big PDF).<BR/><BR/>* "70 per cent" in "slums or dilapidated buildings" -- Hafeez Contractor, Indian Express, July 30 2005<BR/><BR/>* "60 per cent" live on "pavements and in slums" -- Sharada Dwivedi, "Agenda for Bombay", Mumbai Reader, UDRI 2006<BR/><BR/>* "50 to 60 percent" live in informal settlements, and "55.3 percent" assumed by the Municipal Corporation as slum dwellers -- Vinit Mukhija, "Squatters as Developers?", cited in Mumbai Reader, UDRI 2006<BR/><BR/>* "54.1 per cent" live in "dwellings unfit for human habitation", and "60 per cent" of Mumbai's children live in slums -- Samiran Chakrawertti, "Maximum City, Maximum Slum", Times of India, 2005 but don't have the date unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>* "60 per cent", numbering seven million -- Sameera Khan, "Blinkered Vision", in "Architecture - Time, Space & People" magazine, July 2005Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-68123275727886537242008-01-31T05:57:00.000+05:302008-01-31T05:57:00.000+05:30Thank you all, it's nice to see all this discussio...Thank you all, it's nice to see all this discussion. I'm coping badly with a broken net connection, so I'll respond here just as soon as I can get over that.Dilip D'Souzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221707482541503243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-67409364447757261822008-01-30T04:21:00.000+05:302008-01-30T04:21:00.000+05:30Two points I'd like to add:People moving back to s...Two points I'd like to add:<BR/><BR/>People moving back to slums even after getting affordable (or free housing) is not Mumbai specific, and may not be due to soaring real estate prices alone. I remember the same thing happened in Chennai many years ago when real estate was not exactly booming. <BR/><BR/>1. From the slum dweller's point of view, any profit he makes from selling his new free/ subsidized apartment is a free lunch. He is used to the slum lifestyle, and can easily join another slum as long as there is one within a reasonable distance. The money goes to other priorities like education/ healthcare/ durable goods.<BR/><BR/>2. There is also the social aspect. People in slums interact much more closely with each other than people in apartments. Slum dwellers tend to miss their old, "communal" lifestyle and move back into slums after selling/ renting their apartments.<BR/><BR/>3. Also, people in slums usually think shorter term. Their need for money is more immediate. So even if their apartment will appreciate over the longer term, they would rather make a profit now by selling it since the money would be much more useful.<BR/><BR/>The point is, slum dwellers themselves don't feel an urgency to move up into apartments. There is no overriding cost involved (social/ economic) that makes them want to stay in the apartment at the cost of giving up the immediate profit they can make by selling.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to take over the comments section :( Maybe I should blog about this instead..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-17477710110727264232008-01-30T03:42:00.000+05:302008-01-30T03:42:00.000+05:30Surprising that you should not be able to access i...Surprising that you should not be able to access it - WaPo is free online. But here's the link:<BR/><BR/>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012502776.html?nav=hcmoduleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-59106023969854451012008-01-30T02:16:00.000+05:302008-01-30T02:16:00.000+05:30To the Anonymous: Not that a Wiki article is to be...To the Anonymous: <BR/><BR/>Not that a Wiki article is to be trusted blindly, but according to the entry on "Mumbai", 54% of Bombay's population lives in the slums (a source for this number is cited in the Wiki page.)kmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040339235134145847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-10734511455138636372008-01-29T23:30:00.000+05:302008-01-29T23:30:00.000+05:30Housing problems in Mumbai is the only reason why ...Housing problems in Mumbai is the only reason why I wouldn't want to move back there. It's a shame that I can't even afford a room in a slum. But are you sure about your figures when you say two-thirds live in slums or on the streets? I'd say that quite a substantial number live in chawls.P2C2Uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00755090022591638478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-31878608530428701272008-01-29T21:50:00.000+05:302008-01-29T21:50:00.000+05:30Do you have some numbers ? 2/3's bombay in slums ...Do you have some numbers ? 2/3's bombay in slums is indeed very hard to believe. Unfortunately, catchy statistics like this have a tendency to become reality surprisingly fast . Newspapers will soon lead off with "According to D'Souza 67% Bombay lives in slums" and soon everybody starts believing its true. Am not saying its not true, but substantiate with estimated figures pls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-26463390142141373562008-01-29T21:10:00.000+05:302008-01-29T21:10:00.000+05:30Fascinating story, Dilip.Fascinating story, Dilip.kmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040339235134145847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070362.post-35506656021040067472008-01-29T14:56:00.000+05:302008-01-29T14:56:00.000+05:30Brilliant research and analysis."...about two-thir...Brilliant research and analysis.<BR/><BR/>"...about two-thirds of Mumbai's population live in slums or on the streets."<BR/>I find myself doubting this, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com